1 00:00:01,396 --> 00:00:03,456 >> Pat Ryan: Joining me this morning is Angela Bauer, 2 00:00:03,716 --> 00:00:07,376 who is the lead of the Facilities Operations and Maintenance Group 3 00:00:07,376 --> 00:00:09,126 in the Missions Operation Directorate. 4 00:00:09,426 --> 00:00:12,746 Angela, when you tell somebody what it is that you do for a living, 5 00:00:12,746 --> 00:00:14,796 how do you explain what that job is? 6 00:00:15,256 --> 00:00:18,716 >> Angela Bauer: Well, if that person doesn't work here at NASA, the way I explain it is 7 00:00:18,716 --> 00:00:21,596 that everything that you see when you look at this room 8 00:00:21,596 --> 00:00:23,886 on television is something that my group controls. 9 00:00:24,016 --> 00:00:29,436 So we control, or we take things as mundane as the carpet and the pink color on the walls, 10 00:00:29,536 --> 00:00:33,336 but we also take care of the very important things, such as the workstations 11 00:00:33,336 --> 00:00:35,606 and the consoles that the flight controllers sit at. 12 00:00:36,126 --> 00:00:40,496 We control the data that flows here from spacecraft through ground station to here. 13 00:00:40,986 --> 00:00:43,136 We take care of the processing that happens to that data. 14 00:00:43,306 --> 00:00:46,766 We make sure that that data gets down to the flight controller so that they can see it 15 00:00:47,156 --> 00:00:49,656 and view it and look for troubleshooting and do their jobs. 16 00:00:50,866 --> 00:00:55,076 >> Pat Ryan: And yet your work is not restricted to just this room in this building? 17 00:00:55,506 --> 00:00:58,516 >> Angela Bauer: No, we take care of this entire building, which includes this room. 18 00:00:58,516 --> 00:01:02,246 We actually right now have four flight control rooms, so we have this room, 19 00:01:02,246 --> 00:01:06,616 we still have the White Flight Control room, which was used for the Shuttle, 20 00:01:07,146 --> 00:01:11,086 and now it is sitting waiting for the next opportunity 21 00:01:11,086 --> 00:01:14,286 which will be actually the Orion Exploration Flight 1, 22 00:01:14,286 --> 00:01:16,796 which will happen in 2014, we're going to use that room. 23 00:01:17,286 --> 00:01:20,446 We also have a Blue Flight Control Room and a Red flight control room. 24 00:01:20,556 --> 00:01:23,116 Those are mainly used for tests and simulations right now. 25 00:01:23,776 --> 00:01:26,646 And in addition to that we also have server rooms throughout the building. 26 00:01:26,646 --> 00:01:29,696 We have rooms where the data comes in. 27 00:01:29,696 --> 00:01:35,556 We have a lot of equipment that handles all of the voice, all of the key sets and headsets 28 00:01:35,556 --> 00:01:38,456 that the flight controllers use to communicate back and forth. 29 00:01:38,506 --> 00:01:41,696 We also have a lot of equipment that does the video, 30 00:01:41,696 --> 00:01:45,806 such as the video you're watching right now, the video that you can see on the screens behind us. 31 00:01:46,196 --> 00:01:48,616 >> Pat Ryan: On a day-to-day basis, on a routine basis, 32 00:01:48,666 --> 00:01:52,496 what sort of support are your folks called upon to provide? 33 00:01:53,116 --> 00:01:54,226 >> Angela Bauer: Oh, we do everything. 34 00:01:55,226 --> 00:01:58,116 Daily we take care of a lot of things called anomalies 35 00:01:58,206 --> 00:02:00,536 that the flight controllers and other people report. 36 00:02:00,536 --> 00:02:01,286 >> Pat Ryan: They don't sound good. 37 00:02:02,356 --> 00:02:04,146 >> Angela Bauer: No, but sometimes they're not bad. 38 00:02:04,536 --> 00:02:09,936 Sometimes they're anomalies that a workstation monitor isn't working or a unit that we use 39 00:02:09,936 --> 00:02:13,766 to communicate for the voice isn't working, and those are pretty easy to fix. 40 00:02:13,816 --> 00:02:15,526 Sometimes they're a little bit more complicated. 41 00:02:15,526 --> 00:02:18,386 When you have a flight controller attempt to send a command 42 00:02:18,386 --> 00:02:22,506 and the command doesn't leave the building, then that takes a lot more trouble-shooting, 43 00:02:22,506 --> 00:02:25,976 to go figure out you've got to get into the computer code and start to find 44 00:02:25,976 --> 00:02:27,226 out what happened and what went wrong. 45 00:02:28,046 --> 00:02:31,656 >> Pat Ryan: Those sorts of things, are those routine, those kind of problems? 46 00:02:32,326 --> 00:02:34,716 >> Angela Bauer: Problems with the Command system are not very routine. 47 00:02:34,716 --> 00:02:39,426 The Command system has been in place for -- it was initiated about 15 years ago, 48 00:02:39,516 --> 00:02:43,696 so our homegrown Command system is actually pretty robust, 49 00:02:43,696 --> 00:02:45,576 and we don't have a lot of problems with it these days. 50 00:02:46,406 --> 00:02:51,346 >> Pat Ryan: In a dynamic environment like that, where you've got a spaceship in orbit 51 00:02:51,376 --> 00:02:56,226 with a crew, those kind of things, there must be some more unusual calls 52 00:02:56,226 --> 00:02:58,566 for support that your folks get. 53 00:02:58,626 --> 00:03:03,256 Can you give us a couple of examples of the non-routine things that happen? 54 00:03:03,816 --> 00:03:06,476 >> Angela Bauer: Well, on a large scale I'd say probably some 55 00:03:06,476 --> 00:03:12,596 of the most unusual requests we've gotten in the past couple of years have had to do with the way 56 00:03:12,596 --> 00:03:14,146 that technology has changed so much. 57 00:03:14,566 --> 00:03:18,496 And so we've had to figure out ways that we could have the astronauts do things such as post 58 00:03:18,496 --> 00:03:22,646 to Twitter, and surf the Internet and get their e-mail while they're up on orbit. 59 00:03:23,076 --> 00:03:26,726 And those are things that were never really considered when the Control Center was built 60 00:03:26,726 --> 00:03:30,986 in the first place, so we've had to come up with some innovative ideas and ways to allow them 61 00:03:30,986 --> 00:03:34,496 to do that but still have it be safe so that we can't compromise the Space Station. 62 00:03:34,496 --> 00:03:37,196 >> Pat Ryan: So that the commanding and the other things 63 00:03:37,196 --> 00:03:40,316 that it was built to do, will still do. 64 00:03:40,466 --> 00:03:40,716 >> Angela Bauer: Right. 65 00:03:41,306 --> 00:03:47,146 >> Pat Ryan: We're referred to the fact over the years that this room is in the same building 66 00:03:47,146 --> 00:03:51,116 as the Space Shuttle Flight Control Room, and you pointed out that of course, 67 00:03:51,116 --> 00:03:53,546 that's not used for Space Shuttle commanding anymore. 68 00:03:53,856 --> 00:03:56,756 Talk more about what it is being used for right now. 69 00:03:56,756 --> 00:04:01,826 What have your folks had to do in that room to get it ready for its next act? 70 00:04:02,476 --> 00:04:06,566 >> Angela Bauer: Well, actually, the Orion Exploration Flight Test 1, which is scheduled 71 00:04:06,566 --> 00:04:11,086 for '14, is planning to use a lot of the same equipment that we have in here today, 72 00:04:11,086 --> 00:04:13,796 so there's not a whole lot of extra effort that we have to do 73 00:04:13,796 --> 00:04:15,656 to make it capable supporting that flight. 74 00:04:15,766 --> 00:04:26,206 So that test is actually going to use the same workstations that we've installed. 75 00:04:26,206 --> 00:04:27,506 Our workstations are very flexible. 76 00:04:27,506 --> 00:04:31,366 We try to make sure that everything that we do is something that we can use in the future, 77 00:04:31,486 --> 00:04:36,036 so our workstations can be loaded with whatever operating system we need. 78 00:04:36,346 --> 00:04:41,356 So it's going to be used for tests and observations for that Mission. 79 00:04:41,356 --> 00:04:43,206 Until then we also use it to support some 80 00:04:43,206 --> 00:04:45,696 of the other activities we have going on in the building. 81 00:04:46,006 --> 00:04:48,776 >> Pat Ryan: Such as training of flight controllers? 82 00:04:48,846 --> 00:04:52,316 >> Angela Bauer: Training and tests that we do with collaboration with some 83 00:04:52,316 --> 00:04:54,286 of the other centers and international partners. 84 00:04:54,286 --> 00:04:58,656 We support all of those kind of activities in this building daily, and so we're always looking 85 00:04:58,656 --> 00:05:02,206 for extra seats, because this room obviously is used full-time for ISS. 86 00:05:02,516 --> 00:05:05,716 >> Pat Ryan: Occasionally, the folks in here do get moved to other rooms. 87 00:05:05,716 --> 00:05:09,686 Are the other control rooms capable of commanding the Space Station? 88 00:05:09,686 --> 00:05:11,266 Can people work in there? 89 00:05:11,266 --> 00:05:11,576 >> Angela Bauer: Yes. 90 00:05:11,576 --> 00:05:15,666 You are able to send a command to the Space Station from any workstation in this building. 91 00:05:16,196 --> 00:05:21,736 That was one of the foundations that we had when we designed the new building back in the '90s, 92 00:05:21,806 --> 00:05:24,086 was that we wanted the concept of a roving flight controller, 93 00:05:24,156 --> 00:05:27,706 which means that we can put our flight control team anywhere within this building 94 00:05:27,706 --> 00:05:31,716 and they can get the same tools and have the same capabilities that they would in this room. 95 00:05:33,486 --> 00:05:37,786 >> Pat Ryan: Your group is responsible for all of the control rooms and everything 96 00:05:37,786 --> 00:05:42,556 in this building, as well as another building, that is elsewhere at JSE -- 97 00:05:42,556 --> 00:05:47,036 the Jake Garn Simulator and Training Facility, Building 5. 98 00:05:47,316 --> 00:05:50,616 What sorts of things are you folks supporting over there? 99 00:05:50,616 --> 00:05:51,086 >> Angela Bauer: That's right. 100 00:05:51,086 --> 00:05:55,136 A couple of years ago, we found some efficiencies in combining the operations 101 00:05:55,136 --> 00:05:59,086 of this facility and the training facility, and so our main capability 102 00:05:59,086 --> 00:06:02,436 over there right now is the Space Station Training Facility, where we have a mockup 103 00:06:02,436 --> 00:06:05,436 of the modules of the Space Station, and all of them are functional. 104 00:06:05,436 --> 00:06:08,526 We have computer models in there that aren't exactly what you have on board, 105 00:06:08,936 --> 00:06:13,726 but are close enough that we can train our flight controllers and our astronauts 106 00:06:13,796 --> 00:06:15,956 to identify and troubleshoot problems. 107 00:06:15,956 --> 00:06:20,276 It also allows them to go through their standard procedures and get adept at that as well. 108 00:06:21,346 --> 00:06:23,586 And the other thing that we have coming into Building 5 is 109 00:06:23,636 --> 00:06:25,596 that we're constantly looking forward. 110 00:06:25,596 --> 00:06:30,406 We're trying to find the next innovative way to make what we do here more cost effective. 111 00:06:30,466 --> 00:06:37,116 And we have a project called Training Systems 21, TS-21, and they are looking at ways to have 112 00:06:37,116 --> 00:06:39,456 that capability, not only for the Space Station but also 113 00:06:39,456 --> 00:06:41,286 for any other visiting vehicles that we would have. 114 00:06:41,286 --> 00:06:44,056 And so we have a lot of work going on in that facility, 115 00:06:44,376 --> 00:06:48,246 building up for that future implementation out in 2015. 116 00:06:48,246 --> 00:06:51,836 >> Pat Ryan: I assume that you've also been involved with the changeover, 117 00:06:51,836 --> 00:06:54,716 because there were a lot of Space Shuttle training facilities that were 118 00:06:54,716 --> 00:06:56,686 in that building until recently, too. 119 00:06:57,066 --> 00:06:57,426 >> Angela Bauer: That's right. 120 00:06:57,426 --> 00:07:00,896 We call that Shuttle Transition in Retirement, so Shuttle TNR, 121 00:07:00,946 --> 00:07:03,176 because we have to make everything an acronym here. 122 00:07:03,176 --> 00:07:05,466 And we have a lot of work going on in that building. 123 00:07:05,646 --> 00:07:11,606 The building at one time housed our motion case, which is the simulator that actually moves 124 00:07:11,606 --> 00:07:15,616 and allows the flight controllers -- allows the astronauts to get their training, 125 00:07:15,616 --> 00:07:20,176 how to control the spacecraft, and we also had a fixed based that was stationary, 126 00:07:20,586 --> 00:07:22,426 that allowed them to go and work through their procedures. 127 00:07:22,836 --> 00:07:26,946 And so both of those are currently being dismantled and prepared for shipment. 128 00:07:27,596 --> 00:07:31,246 >> Pat Ryan: It's building up new, taking down old, all at the same time. 129 00:07:31,246 --> 00:07:32,226 >> Angela Bauer: That's right. 130 00:07:32,306 --> 00:07:34,376 >> Pat Ryan: Tell me about how you came into this job. 131 00:07:34,376 --> 00:07:38,676 Have you been working NASA long, or in Facilities Management? 132 00:07:39,456 --> 00:07:42,016 >> Angela Bauer: Well, actually I came to NASA in the year 2000, 133 00:07:42,016 --> 00:07:44,156 so I came from the petro chemical industry. 134 00:07:44,256 --> 00:07:47,866 That's not a standard career path that most people take. 135 00:07:47,866 --> 00:07:49,296 A lot of people come straight out of college. 136 00:07:49,296 --> 00:07:53,346 So I came here in 2000 and I went into flight control. 137 00:07:53,346 --> 00:07:56,216 I was a Shuttle electrical power systems flight controller. 138 00:07:56,286 --> 00:08:01,166 And then in 2003 I was given the opportunity to move over to the Facilities Division, 139 00:08:01,166 --> 00:08:06,006 which handles all of the infrastructure that you see here, and I was actually the project manager 140 00:08:06,266 --> 00:08:09,746 for the last update that we do to all of the workstations. 141 00:08:09,746 --> 00:08:12,596 So I've been in Facilities since 2003. 142 00:08:12,656 --> 00:08:14,926 >> Pat Ryan: Did you enjoy being a flight controller? 143 00:08:15,946 --> 00:08:17,196 >> Angela Bauer: It has its moments. 144 00:08:18,926 --> 00:08:23,886 My husband is also a flight controller, and at home we say flight control is hours 145 00:08:23,886 --> 00:08:27,126 of sheer boredom followed by moments of sheer terror. 146 00:08:27,656 --> 00:08:31,676 So there were some very exciting times when I was a flight controller where we had 147 00:08:31,676 --> 00:08:35,546 to do trouble-shooting on the station that I'll never forget. 148 00:08:35,736 --> 00:08:40,826 >> Pat Ryan: Yeah, things that specifically you'd never train for, but that's the job. 149 00:08:41,026 --> 00:08:41,256 >> Angela Bauer: Right. 150 00:08:41,316 --> 00:08:46,096 >> Pat Ryan: Coming out of the petrochemical industry, what was your education background? 151 00:08:46,096 --> 00:08:49,616 what education gets you ready for that job and this one, too? 152 00:08:49,946 --> 00:08:54,206 >> Angela Bauer: Well, I'm actually a mechanical engineer, so I did mechanical engineering 153 00:08:54,206 --> 00:08:57,506 when I was in petrochem, and when I came here I switched over to electrical, 154 00:08:57,786 --> 00:08:59,746 and then I've been doing computers ever since. 155 00:08:59,826 --> 00:09:03,146 So I think for flight control really the important thing is that you have 156 00:09:03,146 --> 00:09:06,496 to have a degree in science and math, so it doesn't matter what your degree is. 157 00:09:06,726 --> 00:09:12,156 My fellow co-workers had physics degrees, math degrees, all of the engineering degrees. 158 00:09:12,666 --> 00:09:16,526 So it really just matters that you're into science and you're a critical thinker. 159 00:09:17,376 --> 00:09:20,016 >> Pat Ryan: Do you have the excitement of space flight, 160 00:09:20,446 --> 00:09:23,326 being in charge of keeping the building running? 161 00:09:24,356 --> 00:09:26,136 >> Angela Bauer: It's very exciting. 162 00:09:27,406 --> 00:09:30,826 You would thing that you'd be a bit removed since we're not always sitting in this room, 163 00:09:30,826 --> 00:09:35,466 except that within our group we do actually have the ground controllers who sit in this room 164 00:09:35,466 --> 00:09:39,746 in the back of the room, and they control all of the ground assets, all of the communication gear 165 00:09:39,746 --> 00:09:41,216 and they make sure that everything is working. 166 00:09:41,726 --> 00:09:45,676 And so not only do we have their involvement and their excitement, but also, 167 00:09:45,886 --> 00:09:49,256 we have to work around the Mission whenever we're making changes in the facility, 168 00:09:49,256 --> 00:09:53,556 so we're constantly aware of what's going on on orbit to make sure that we don't do anything 169 00:09:53,556 --> 00:09:55,456 that could compromise any sort of critical phase. 170 00:09:56,216 --> 00:10:00,926 >> Pat Ryan: I appreciate the fact that all this stuff works, and everyone else does, too. 171 00:10:01,016 --> 00:10:01,366 Thank you. 172 00:10:01,676 --> 00:10:06,116 Angela Bauer is the lead of the Facility Operations and Maintenance Group